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Autocycle War Instead of Online Voting


Indian Hammock is now a thriving Residential Community with many Full-Time Residents.
 
I rode motorcycles for some 55 years and gave up before moving to Indian Hammock.

I applauded the A Team 2024 BOD for their work, as presented in the current Book of Rules Chapter 6. Driving Privilege (I still object to driving in IH being considered a “Privilege“)

I am too old to ride a two-wheel motorcycle, but I am considering an Autocycle, a Slingshot, which is currently allowed in Indian Hammock.

The B Team 2025 BOD seems ready to ignite a new war, the Autocycle War.
They are trying to amend Rule 6.4 Prohibited Vehicles to ban Autocycles like the SlingShot.

The B Team received repeated requests to put Online Voting on the BOD agenda.
Most members want Online Voting; see the last membership meeting numbers.

The B Team BOD is bent over dismantling the good work the A Team has done.
They devote their time and efforts to an Autocycle War and procrastinate on Online Voting. The B Team BOD doesn’t give a hoot about what the members want, the Online Voting.

Why does the B Team not expedite Online Voting? This is a breach of  BOD Fiduciary Duties, and I challenge members to explain where I am wrong in pointing this out.

And to those who still don’t know what an Autocycle isplease check out my favorite, the Slingshot. Two wheels in the front and a steering wheel, not a handlebar, require a regular driver’s license; no motorcycle endorsement is needed. It can not be driven on a dirt trail without being destroyed.

Adding Online Voting.

Florida statute 720 gives the BOD the power to add online voting.
It does not require members to vote by 2/3 (200 votes).
It does not require any special member meeting to vote on.
The BOD can add it to the agenda and vote on it in a regular board meeting.

In the last members meeting, the 2024 BOD unnecessarily motioned to amend the Deed of Restrictions to add Online Voting, a mission impossible since it requires 200 votes.

The established quorum was 247 votes.
150 (61%) voted YES for adding Online Voting, while 97 (39%) voted NO.

I call on the 2025 BOD to include a motion to add online voting to the agenda for their next meeting.

If you agree, please get in touch with the board’s members and help me with this task.

Online Voting and the changes I want and like.

Yes, I want changes, but not those the “Rumors Brigade” claims I am for.

I moved to Indian Hammock because it is away from the Hustle and Bustle, which is kept outside our gate, because of the Old Florida Charm Indian Hammock has, because of the open spaces, quiet, and privacy. This is why I made Indian Hammock my home, and I will never support changing any of it.

I want to change the governing system in Indian Hammock.
Protect Owners’ Rights and promote living by the Golden Rule: Live and Let Live.

We have already changed our gate system, which announces and controls packages, and the club’s official website. We have also changed meeting participation by putting it on Zoom. I am sure more was done, and Joe Coyle, the “engine” behind most of these significant changes, can provide a much better list and description.

The proxy system, as put into the Club’s documents, was essential 50 years ago to create a quorum. Today, we have the internet, personal computers, and cell phones, and we can do far better in creating a quorum if we allow to add Online Voting.

There is a conflict between those advocating enhanced member participation and transparency from the board of directors and some of the Proxy Harvesting Champions, backed by members who don’t grasp Online Voting.

I define a Proxy Harvesting Champion as a member who has accumulated 10 proxies or more, can vote 11 or more times to elect himself to the BOD, or to accept or reject any issue voted on.

The Club’s Documents require that the names of the proxies’ holders and the number of proxies each accumulated be available to all the club’s members. This information will or should be on the Club’s website soon.

In the last members’ meeting, a motion was made to add Online Voting to the Club’s documents. This addition requires 200 YES votes.
The established quorum was 247 votes.
104 came from members present on the floor.
143 by proxies.

The results were
150 voted YES for adding Online Voting. (Short of 50 votes to a successful change.)
97 voted NO.
With the quorum of 247, only 48 NO votes were needed to stop adding Online Voting to the Club’s documents, a number I suspect one or two of the best Proxy Harvesting Champions could assemble.

I am unaware of other Property Owners’ Associations or Clubs that allow unrestricted proxy harvesting, which is a fault in our Club’s documents.

I am confident that Online Voting, which many Property Owners’ Associations and Clubs use, will be added to our club’s documents. It is only a question of time, and the sooner the better.

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Upcoming Vote to Allow Online Voting in IH

A letter to all IH Membership
From: Joe Coyle Lot 106/181.
Topic: Upcoming Vote to Allow Online Voting in IH.
Hello to all my fellow Indian Hammock members. I have asked, as a member of Indian Hammock since 2017, have requested to the owner of the Indian Hammock Owners’ Rights Facebook site and website to please post this message to all followers regarding the facts of allowing Online Voting in Indian Hammock.

As many of you know, I was tasked to research and recommend a company, and
related online voting platform, that could fit the needs of our Indian Hammock membership to allow more members to attend virtually, and vote virtually and electronically, in IH meetings, especially the annual members meeting.

The goal, and only goal, of this research was to allow members who could not physically attend, to be able to leverage their right to vote from anywhere in the world, on a secure, member verified, platform where all votes are anonymous.
I am confident we have identified that system. Also, while researching, another goal was for online voting to be additive, meaning in no way does it bypass the voting process for members that we have now, but only adds the ability to vote remotely and electronically, with full knowledge of any changes or motions executed during the actual meeting.
Finally, with the addition of our recent audio and video technologies, members can now attend meetings virtually, and vote in real time from anywhere in the world, safely, securely, and anonymously, while being 100% verified as the actual member executing the voting.
I hope you all find this intuitive, and a good starting point for the many questions I am sure are waiting to be asked.
I will break down my writing into groups, hopefully for clarity.

Why Introduce Online Voting:
To summarize along with the above statements, here are the highlights:
* Online Voting increases member participation on average by 75%
* You will be able to watch, listen, and participate in the meeting including voting with your vote, and any proxies, from anywhere in the world where you have internet access
* You can still vote in person.
* Proxies are fully supported, but hopefully will minimize “Proxy Harvesting”.
At our last annual meeting, 4 members controlled approximately 25% of the votes

It should also be mentioned that the 2024 BOD members voted unanimously to hold a special member meeting to ask membership to approve online voting. And finally, this is an additive solution and does not remove the current solution.

The Company:
The company selected to support online voting in IH, if approved, is Survey & Ballot Systems. Their website with a wealth of information is: Election Management Solutions & Voting Software | SBS Based in Minnesota, and with over 30 years in the election business, they are more than qualified in the industry. Their product, called DirectVoteLive, is a “Software as a Service” (SaaS) offering that is used by many clubs, HOA’s, Nonprofits, Churches, Credit Unions, and even Governments across the USA. They are fully licensed and certified, including in the great state of Florida.

The Technology Platform:
The technology Platform “DirectVoteLive” is state of the art, supporting industry-leading security including Transport Layer Security (TLS) encryption, and is SOC2-compliant, which are the current standards for managing personal data. Happy to explain any of this in detail to any member.

The service runs on the Microsoft Azure Cloud, which is world class and runs workloads for companies around the world.

A few words about Software as a Service or (SaaS). SaaS has been around in the industry since the 1960’s although until the personal computer came into play, almost no one knew of it, or what it did, unless you are old like me and worked in the mainframe computing days. Today, SaaS is everywhere, used by everyone, every day. During the technology boom of the late 1990’s and 2000’s, two important technologies released the feasibility, and the availability of SaaS. Those technologies were Global Networking, and Cloud Computing. These two technologies becoming commodities launched SaaS. So, what is SaaS? Simply, it is software that runs in the Cloud, and as offered to, as a service, companies or individuals. The software remains under the control of the owner, in this case Survey & Ballots, and is presented to people via an online interface, for controlled usage. There is no installation, no CD’s or DVD’s, no updates need to be done, and no access to the underlying code. You get access to what you pay for, and nothing else. Some other examples, there are many, like the bank access everyone uses in your browser, Salesforce, ADP Payroll, the Google search engine, etc. There are thousands. SaaS is what we are recommending.

We have rented the platform for 1 year, with unlimited elections. With renewals entirely up to IH.

What the SaaS Platform Does:
In summary and as stated above, the platform allows verified members to vote in elections remotely and unanimously from anywhere in the world with an internet connection. Securely and confidently. Some more details:
* The election committee runs the election as always, verifies the members and any proxies, and loads that information into the system under the election.
Proxies are also loaded in, so if a member assigns their vote to another member,
that assigned member has an additional vote, just like the paper process.
* By default, all elections are anonymous and are stated as such on every screen and report. Period.
* Members are verified by the election committee prior to the election, and the system
verifies the members in real time by sending a specific link to members for access. No link is the same, and the links are only sent to verified member devices.
* In real-time, the election committee can load in for example additional BOD members
elected on the floor for office, any motion made in real time by members for vote at the
meeting, etc.
* All information regarding an election can be loaded into the system so remote voters have the same access to information as those attending in person.
* All members are notified electronically if any new motions, etc. are approved at the
meeting. So even members not watching via audio/video will be notified in real-time should another vote be needed.
* For those attending the meeting, voting results will be displayed in real-time at the meeting on our monitor for all to see. For remote voters, they can see the same on their devices. At the end of the meeting, all results are distributed via report to registered voters via the same link that was supplied.

I would also like to mention that Survey & Ballots also offers a comprehensive hands-on service, where they send a team on site to run the entire election, using the same software, via their team, thereby freeing up our election committee, for a price!

What the SaaS Platform Does Not Do:
Again, as stated previously:

* The platform will not expose who votes, and that information is not available to anyone, including the administrator executing the election process.
* Will not allow any manipulation of the voting, by anyone, including the platform owners.
* Does not restrict in any way how IH runs elections. It only offers a more efficient way to execute the election.

Our Testing Process:
As many are aware, the elections committee has performed several tests, including 2 tests with the entire membership, to prove our goal of adding online voting both securely and anonymously. Many of you have already participated. This is the reason the BOD voted to rent the platform for a year, to demonstrate to membership, using the actual productive platform, that we can add remote online voting to our current election process.

How Much Does It Cost IH to Leverage?
We have purchased the “rental” of the platform for 1-year, unlimited number of elections, for approximately $530.00. 1-year renewals are at our discretion, with no obligation. I am sure prices will vary year by year, but their prices have been consistent over the years, with only minor fluctuations. The price we negotiated also includes a TXT message add-on, that allows us to notify members in real-time via TXT along with the included email in the standard package.

Some Additional Information:
It should be noted that even for members attending the meeting onsite, you can STILL vote using the online platform. This is the best of both worlds as you are there in real-time, but can use your phone, tablet, laptop, to vote, not having to fill out ballots with pen, rip off certain colored paper to vote on motions, etc.

Expecting people to choose to vote electronically even while onsite, the BOD and yours truly have agreed to install a Starlink internet system at the lodge, which all but guarantees us that every member attending can leverage online voting at the lodge, without worry of bandwidth issues.
Image how much this platform will speed to vote counting, especially as more members choose to vote on the platform versus paper. No more trying to fill the hours of dead air while manual counting occurs.

To Summarize:
I would like to start by thanking David Etzion for allowing this post to his followers to happen, as I want to get the facts to as many members as possible.

I would also like to stress that this post comes from Joe Coyle the member, and in no way has any ties to the BOD, where I also serve the community for this year.

I am more than happy to make myself available to anyone who has additional questions or would like to discuss anything in more detail. Please reach out and I will spend the time.

And, we have an extremely knowledgeable election committee that is now well versed in this platform, has run mock elections, and is another great resource to connect with for any details or questions.

Finally, visit the Survey & Ballots website at: Election Management Solutions & Voting Software |SBS There is a wealth of information available including other users’ comments, case studies, etc.
It is worth your time, so you are self-informed prior to the meeting on Sunday, December 15th.

So, let’s get this done. And hopefully let’s not let 4 members control 25% of the outcome of this decision of allowing online voting.

Thank you all and God Bless.

Joe Coyle

Lot 106/181.

Cell and email on our IH website.

Online Voting at Indian Hammock

I received an email from Corey Miller (Lot 29), which is too important not to put on record. Here it is in Corry’s own words.

Dear neighbors,
Indian Hammock is celebrating its 50th anniversary this year! Over those years many things have changed, including the ability to vote electronically. I am writing to you about the upcoming On-Line voting decision.I am fully supporting this because

1.       Online voting increases member participation by 75%!

2.       Your Board unanimously voted to have a special membership meeting to vote on this, we need 196 votes to pass this.

3.       You will be able to watch, listen and participate in meetings

4.       You can still vote in person

5.       Proxies are still allowed, but will minimize “Proxy Harvesting” (at our last annual  controlled 4 members controlled approximately 25% of the votes)

6.       Voting is secure and secret – NO ONE can access how you voted!

My wife Lauren and I have been members for over 30 years. We enjoy shotgun shooting sports, Lauren enjoys horseback riding and I enjoy being on the finance committee (fun guy!)

Thank you for taking the time to read this. Please support the motion.

Thank you,

Corey Miller, Lot 29– 

Upcoming Election – Asking for Proxies’ Holders Names and the number of proxies.

January 2019 election was determined by:
Proxies Used and Unused – 115 of 299, being 38.5% of the voting power.
In Attendance – 81 of 299, being 27.1% of the voting power.
(103 Votes, being 34.4%, did not participate in any way.)

In the January 2019 election, a candidate needed 79 or more votes to win a board seat.
The bigger three or so proxies’ holders can determine the outcome of the election,
agreeing which candidates they will jointly support and put on the BOD.

Our documents allow this faulty Election System and should be changed to establish a much better-updated system that will incorporate computers, the internet, emails, video conference, etc. All were not in existence when Indian Hammock documents were written.
It probably will take years to achieve these changes, as it requires 2/3 of the voting power

My goal and the reason for this posting is to achieve some transparency BEFORE the upcoming election.
I call on the BOD to publish and advertise the names of the five biggest proxies’ holders in each of the last three elections and the number of proxies each had.
I call on the BOD to make it a standard procedure to provide this information each year.

I understand this is not a “priority” for the BOD members who may enjoy the current system.

If you wish to bring a little transparency to the upcoming election, help put the pressure on the BOD and join me in demanding the list of names and the number of proxies each had.

Apathy – The biggest Danger to Indian Hammock

A community of apathetic Owners/Members will breed Boards of Directors that will ignore their Fiduciary Duties to the Owners/Members and will overstep their authority, infringing on Owners/Members’ rights.

Unfortunately, that is what happened in the past, and is happening now in Indian Hammock.

In the January 19, 2020 Election of BOD, as per the Hammock Herald:
Voting members in attendance: 81
Proxies voted: 109
Not Voting: 103
Unused proxy: 6
Total voting: 299

Let analyze these numbers:

  • Not voting at all – Zero interest, by 103 of 299 being 34.5% of voting power.
  • Proxies Used and Unused – Leaves to others to decide, 115 of 299 being 38.5% of voting power.
  • In Attendance – 81 of 299 27% of voting power.

These numbers mean:

  • 73% of voting power don’t have a personal interest in choosing the BOD.
  • 27% of voting power has a personal interest in choosing the BOD.
  • A few individuals, being the holders of a large number of Proxies, dictates who will be on the BOD.

This can, used to, and will be, exploited by the BOD, and not for the benefit of the Owners/Members.

Safeguarding and Restoring the Rights of Indian Hammock Owners/Members requires a major increase in Owners/Members participation and input.

The voting system can be updated to include early voting by Owners/Members, this may reduce the number of “Not Voting” and I believe will switch users of the Proxies, especially those who are not full time residents, to personally vote.

Your comments and opinion will be highly appreciated.